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Bert Martinez:
Welcome back, everyone. This is exciting. It’s November 5th, election day. History being made today for the 47th time.
If you wanna look at it that way, but either way, it’s gonna be a November to remember here on the show today is Norm Blumenthal.
Norm Blumenthal is an attorney for workers and consumers like you and I selected as one of the top attorneys in Southern California. Norm was also inducted and recognized as one of America’s most trusted lawyers in employment law. Norm, welcome back.
Lawyer Norm Blumenthal:
Nice to be back, Bert. And here we are. We’ll be picking our leader for the next 4 years and the senate. We’re picking a third of them and all the members of the house, along with local elections, and, 10 states have a women’s right to control their own bodies on the ballot. We’ll see how that plays out.
But the bottom line is, and the thing to talk think about I mean, everybody’s voted or is going to vote. You know, time is running out. But, hopefully, along the way, we all have to realize that leaders make a difference.
And, we’ve had some good presidents, and we’ve had so, not so good presidents. And in the world today, there’s good leaders and there’s not so good leaders. So this is our choice of whether, the people we choose are good leaders or not so good leaders.
You know, you go back to you go back to Roman times and, as as a start, and, they had some good leaders and not so good leaders for you to see from all the history. But, eventually, the what they ended up doing is they just paid people off to, put them in power. Surprise. Surprise. And they ended up being bankrupt.
Rome Bank became bankrupt and couldn’t pay its bills along the way, and Augustus, made off with whatever was left. And, Peron in Argentina, here’s a good example. He’s an excellent example. Peron in the 1940s, Argentina was one of the best economies in the world. No debt, gold standard. Every, peso was backed by, gold, and, he came into power, and he, promised the, workers the world. And he just started printing pesos, in an alarming rate. And eventually, he bankrupted the country, and they’ve never recovered.
And it was, you know, great when you were the, worker at the beginning, and he promised you, you know, extra pay and additional time off and and overtime pay and, no taxes. You loved it. But, at some point in time, as they say, you have to pay the piper. And that’s what ended up happening in to today’s economy. We’re 35 trillion dollar in debt, and no one wants to talk about it.
And, candidate Trump, he comes up with, well, I’m gonna make a sweetener here and, no taxes on commissions and, on, no taxes on, gratuities and, no taxes on overtime. Sounds great, but you still have to pay your bills. And so he’s put himself in a position where if all these, giveaways pass, which he already did once for a tune of about 10 trillion dollars, took all this money and gave it to people who least could at least needed it to put away.
And, here we are. He’s gonna if he gets elected again, you can look at another 5 to 10 trillion. I think they have it at 45 trillion more in debt that we’re gonna leave our, children and grandchildren to, figure out a way to to do it. The democrats have a problem too with that, but at the end of the day, you need good leadership to turn it around, and the Republican party has given up on providing that. And the Democratic party, they were always, in favor of, of spending except for the the anomaly as Clinton Clinton was the last, president to, have a budget surplus.
Bert Martinez:
Absolutely. And and I wanna also interject this is that you mentioned Perron, a a a, another, example, I would say, would be Hugo Chavez who, again, took Venezuela, one of the richest countries in the world, tons of resources, tons of oil, and and, the same thing as Peron promised everything to the working class. And and I think I think he not only was gonna give him more money, but he off he was gonna give every family a free TV.
And look at Venezuela now. I mean, they if you guys will do some research on Google or YouTube, the Venezuelan people take their pesos, and they make art with them. They make hats with them. They make shirts with them. It it’s in it’s very, creative, inner and and it’s just sad.
It’s just terrible. So your point of a good leader is needs to be taken to heart. And and if you go down the list, what makes a good leader? Trump, in my opinion, hits none of those. From the very beginning, let you know, if you stop if you if you start at the top of the list, a good leader, will take responsibility, will admit fault, will give credit where credit is due, will will put the needs of others before them. Trump those are just the the 4 off the top of my head. Trump, it doesn’t do any of those. Will not ever take responsibility. Will not give credit where credit is due.
Oh, you know, a good leader is loyal. Trump has no loyalty. You know, your chicken salad one day, your chicken crap the next.
And and you see this over and over again. So, and to your point with, you know, Clinton, having a budget surplus, you know, think that’s I think that is a good example. I think it’s, you know, the, again, in my opinion, the reality is that you have you have a bunch of people in power that are spending other people’s money. And as we’ve seen, they don’t have a a huge problem with printing more money.
And and a lot of the problems that we suffered through the last 4 years, you know, with the printing of the money, you know, I have to say in my again, I look at it as a bipartisan thing. If both parties decided, hey. We gotta print all this money to, help the citizens of America. And I think that, I’m hopeful that when the next pandemic comes, which they say is going to happen sooner or later, that we don’t shut down the economy, the way we did.
And I just found it interesting to me, Norman, and I don’t wanna go down too far down that rabbit hole, but I I find it interesting to me that that places like movie theaters were allowed to stay open, but gyms had to close and religious institutions had to close.
Lawyer Norm Blumenthal:
Yeah. You know, it it’s interesting what people will do and you had leadership is is is important. I mean, we had fortunately, in this world, in in the thirties and in the forties, we had, men like, Chamberlain and Roosevelt, who could stand up to dictators. And, we had, you know, in in the 8th in 19th century, we had, Lincoln who stood up to this, segregationist and the separationist.
And now we’re in a juncture where we have, on the one hand, Zelensky in the Ukraine, where the Ukrainians are fighting for their freedom against Putin, the dictator in Russia, who is aligned with the dictatorship of Iran and, North Korea. And, so we have to in a position to decide who we’re gonna, stand up with.
Unfortunately, mister Trump has, said that if, you know, if he was around and was president when Lincoln was there, he would have made a deal with the South because, you know, there’s there’s nothing wrong with save slavery. You know, there’s good good slavery and bad slavery.
So he you know, this is the kind of person that could potentially be our president, and, I never gave even a dog whistle to, balancing the budget. It was never in his cards, and the Republicans really have to live with the fact that they put him in who is he’s anathema to all of the things that, the Republican Party stood for and the Tea Party stood for. You know, Tea Party was taxed enough already, and they stood for balancing the budget and bringing down the cost across the board.
Today, you you can’t get anybody to stand for balancing the budget or reducing cost in the in the defense sector. And, you know, the the it and it’s it’s unfortunate, that we don’t have someone like this in here. Hopefully, they’ll pass whoever gets elected will pass this, bipartisan immigration bill, and we’ll get that off the charts. I think it’s under control right now, but, you know, everybody agrees there shouldn’t be illegal, crossing, and people should register and get work permits. And I think the vote in in Iowa was a big tell.
You know, here you are. You’re in Iowa. You’re a farmer. You have a lot of hands on hard work to do every morning to get the cows milked and fed and cleaned up. And, you know, it’s a never ending, job. And the only people that’ll do it besides the farmer himself who who understands it is, immigrants. 1st generation willing to do it and some of whom, do not have work permits. Unfortunately, they need to get them.
But I think the farmers in in Iowa were telling us something that they do need these immigrants. However, it’s it the the system’s set up for them to stay, but the idea of putting people in cages who have, work permits or don’t have work permits, who have jobs, who have family here, and deporting them is is something, hopefully, we’ll we’ll never have to see, because, hopefully, mister Trump will not, have another chance to take over, this country.
Bert Martinez:
Right. Right. And you know what? Here, one of the things that I wanted to ask you because you’re in a unique position as a lawyer who protects consumers and workers. I don’t know about you. And so I wanna get your opinion on this. I have not met anybody that has lost their job to an immigrant, illegal or otherwise. I I don’t know anybody out there. Nobody’s nobody’s complained to me that they’re they lost their their crop picking job or their their janitorial job or any any any of these jobs.
Have you found a lot of people complaining to you about losing their job?
Lawyer Norm Blumenthal:
No. You know, to the contrary, I mean, in in Nevada, you here you’re gonna have who’s gonna clean all the rooms? And, you know, you’re you’re you’re you’re gonna have immigrants, take those jobs that ladies will work and do it. And, you know, they need a fair wage, and and you just no one wants these jobs. I mean, think about I mean, I’ve seen pictures of these slaughter houses for chickens and cows, and it’s a place you don’t wanna be.
And Right. Nobody would would take these jobs. No one wants these jobs. And, you know, fortunately, for for the people that are born here and have English as their first language, they they have a substantial leg up on on getting jobs now and, you know, in the trades, and you can go to community college and and learn a trade.
You don’t have to go to a 4 year college if you if it doesn’t require it. Community colleges in California are virtually free, and, you can pick pick up any trades you want. And, the this is where, you know, 1st generation Americans, end up in in you know, their parents may have been come across illegally or legally. In any event, they were born here and they’re American citizens and and they end up going, you know, from a through elementary school into a community college or college.
And who do you think becomes our nurses? And, you know, this is the next generation. You know, you don’t lose your job to an illegal or you you’re gonna be the one that’s gonna, get the next generation up and running. And so it’s a process that’s been happening, you know, for 200 years. This is a melting pot.
It always has been, and no one’s talked like mister Trump talks about how you, immigrants are are the the cross section of they’re not murderers or rapists or anything. They have the same bad mix of every other group of people, and they have the same good mix. And there’s a lot of of great immigrants. I’m you know, just think, Elon Musk, he’s an immigrant.
Bert Martinez:
He’s an immigrant. Yeah.
Lawyer Norm Blumenthal:
I mean, just, you know, should we kick him out? He wasn’t, you know, he’s a naturalized citizen. You know, maybe we shouldn’t have let him in. Einstein was an immigrant.
So, you know, maybe we shouldn’t have let him in. And so this is how silly it is to talk put immigrants in one big pot. You know?
Bert Martinez:
Well and and let’s not forget let’s not forget that, Trump’s grandfather was an immigrant. Melania Trump or Melania Trump is an immigrant. You know, the something else that I wanna kind of, bring to to people’s memory.
You know, last time Trump was in office because he made such a stink about immigration and illegal aliens. You know, they’re in California, and you correct me if I’m wrong, Norm, they’re in California. There was tons, literally, several tons of unpicked crops because there was nobody to pick them.
Lawyer Norm Blumenthal:
And it’s a real issue if you can’t get them. And Cesar Chavez, you know, at least gave them a living wage, but it’s a backbreaking job that I I saw, you know, program on, on TV about they put, you know, a couple of, Americans up there against a couple of immigrants that try to pick oranges in Florida.
And let’s just say that the Americans did not do well. You know, at the end of the the picture, the immigrants had sacks and bags of of, oranges, and the Americans couldn’t fill one of each because they just you know, it’s it’s a backbreaking jobs they have. And there’s no reason for a person who comes in illegally who gets a work permit. He could stay and work as long as he has a job, and then he can go home if he doesn’t have a job, but it there’s no pathway to citizenship.
I mean, it’s, you know, you have to stand in line like everybody else. And I think everybody agrees to that. You have to, you know, follow the the law and the rules except for maybe mister Trump. He has rules of his own that people seem to look the other way that, he’s able to violate, and it it has no reflection on who they vote for. This is what I really think the American people just missed out on in terms of there’s people voting for him, especially Latinos. You know, he he is anti Latino and anti, you know, Caribbean, Puerto Rican. He doesn’t like any of these. He doesn’t he’s he’s basically anti women.
And so but everybody overlooks his his his policy problems, and they look at the things he does, and he’s like an enter you know, the the entertainer. And people would think he’s just like Perron or Chavez. You know, you end up being entertained until you can’t pay your bills anymore because the dollar you have isn’t worth anything.
Bert Martinez:
Right, And in my opinion, Trump plays the the, weed card. You know, he got in front of, of these oil companies and said, you give me a couple of a billion dollar and I forgot the amount. I think it was 2 billion or maybe it was a 1 billion. You give me this money, and I’ll let you start drilling in, you know, wherever you want, essentially, is what he said. And and so, the reason that Elon Musk is giving him money, the reason anybody is giving Trump money is because they’re hoping that he’s going to help them somehow, someway. Right now, we know that the, there are several again, this is my opinion.
There there are several, Supreme Court justices that that in my, you know, that I think are crooked. This is my opinion. I think that they’re they they are not abiding by the law. They’re not abiding by the constitution. And and these judges have empowered Trump to do, some of the stuff that he, that he wants to do. And, and so these people now wanna tap into that network and and and look.
If you and I were billionaires and we wanna protect our our our business or we wanna protect our way of life and we don’t want to and we wanna avoid being, held accountable for maybe some of the stuff that we’re doing, the polluting or the way we’re treating, our employees, then having, somebody like Trump or and some of his, judges is going to be something that we’re interested in. But Yeah.
You know, that only applies to that level of net worth. And so, you know, the is a , a very, very interesting thing that we’re that we’re seeing here. And and, the the thing that really kind of, what I find so funny is that if, you know, first of all, with Biden, for, the Republican party, not the entire party, but the the people that are in the, Trump orbit, the MAGA party, have tried for the last 4 years to indict Trump, and I’m sorry, to indict Biden, to impeach Biden, but they couldn’t find anything. It’s it’s the silliest thing.
And and, you know, I read, Bill Barr’s book, William Barr, who was Trump’s attorney general. And in that book, he talks about how Trump wanted to indict Obama. He wanted to indite, Hunter Biden. He wanted to indite, Joe Biden.
And and and, one of the things that put a wedge between William Barr, Bill Barr, and Trump is that Bill Barr kept telling him there is no evidence. We can’t prosecute without evidence. And and that, in the book, he talks about this created this big wedge because he wanted to prosecute Comey. And again and again, Barr came back and said there is no evidence.
I mean, we we don’t like what he did or how he did it, but there’s just no evidence of wrongdoing. And so, I think that if Trump gets in the office, he’s already mentioned multiple times that he’s gonna retaliate, he’s gonna punish his enemies. He doesn’t have a plan for America. Now the the little plan that we know of is he wants to increase tariffs, and if anybody, please, anybody, just do your homework on tariffs.
They will put companies out of business. They will put workers out of business, because this has happened, you know, years ago years ago, I had clients that were in the paper and printing business. And they put, I can’t remember the president at that time.
I might have been Clinton, but bottom line is they put all these tariffs on Canadian paper. And several when I say several, I’m talking about I believe it’s, like, a 100,000, maybe 200 I can’t remember the number, but 100 of thousands of people lost their jobs. Companies folded because they could not sustain profitability because of these tariffs.
Lawyer Norm Blumenthal:
Yep. I I think if you if you look at this, you know, Trump gets elected, which can happen. If this happens, I think you’re gonna see it’ll take a couple of years, but unemployment’s gonna be up, inflation’s gonna be up, jobs will be down, Immigration will be nonexistent.
There won’t be people to take the the lower paying jobs. Won’t be people to clean the rooms. There won’t be people to clean the streets. You know, we’re we’re just gonna be in a in a awful position. But by the same token, people like Elon Musk, I mean, what’s what’s he in it for? Let’s see.
He’s got billions and billions of dollars in government contracts for these satellites. He has, basically control of of, Starlinks where he he’s controlling, communications around the world. He is in a position he has Tesla. What about the government? The next fleet of cars, they’re all Teslas.
I how much money is he gonna make off of that plus the Tesla, charging? How much money will he make off of that? So the fact that he gives out a million dollar here and there or a hundred million, it’s not it’s not real money to him because he deals in trillions and trillions. And that’s why he is where he is and, you know, he’s basically making a fool of himself jumping up and down on the stage with Trump. I mean, that’s this is but this is who he is. He knows where his bread is buttered and where his money’s coming from, and he’s got a chance here for a big, big payday.
And he’s he’s playing the authoritarian card because he he’s mixed up with, Putin, and he’s mixed up with, Chi, and he’s mixed up with, Dong Xiaoping. I mean, he’s he’s all over the place. So this is the guy that, it’s pretty frightening that he’s gonna be the guy in charge of, who works where because you’re gonna see government employees all laid off. What are they gonna do?
Bert Martinez:
So to to your point, you know, that is part of the 2025 project to lay off or fire people who are not going to be, a 100% loyal to Trump. And even though, mister Trump, former president Trump has, has denied any knowledge of of anything to do with project 2025, the people who are involved in project 2025 are people who worked with him before. Project 2025 are people who worked with him before.
And he currently I can’t remember the gentleman’s name, but he is the head author, if you will, the lead author in in project 2025. He he’s been promised a, a position in the White House. It’s hard to believe that they haven’t discussed project 2025. And back to your point of, of these billionaires, look at Jeff Bezos. A lot of people don’t know this, but Jeff Bezos controls the Washington Post.
For years, the Washington Post has, endorsed different candidates. Guess what? This year, they’re silent. They’re not allowed to endorse 1 or the other because the the they’re you know, I the the the what do you call it? The thinking is is that if if they endorse, Harris and Trump wins, that Trump will retaliate, against the post and Bezos because we’ve seen it we’ve seen, how he tried to retaliate against, Bezos before, with Amazon, because he was, upset that Amazon had such a sweet deal with the, post office.
He’s he’s he’s made several threats against Mark Zuckerberg in Facebook. You know, it’s it’s just one of those things where, and, again, I don’t blame these people. You don’t wanna be on the bad side of a somebody with so much power who has no empathy, who has no moral compass, who does not believe in, the free market, doesn’t believe in in, playing by certain rules. You know, if you look at, again, Trump’s history, we had, a failed Trump University where the only reason this is my opinion. The only reason that he he gave a a $25,000,000 settlement is because, he was running for the White House, the presidency at that time.
He has had, sexual relationships with at least 2 women that we know of, which he denies, but then he says, on the same breath, I don’t know these women, but they signed an NDA. Excuse me? That doesn’t even make sense. How do you how do you how do you not know these women?
And in that case, why did they sign an NDA? So, you know, it’s, it’s just one of those things where, and this is a quote from William Barr. I’m probably, paraphrasing it here, but William Barr, again, this is his former AG, said, president Trump leaves a trail of bodies in his wake.
Lawyer Norm Blumenthal:
Well, let’s talk about the other side of the coin. And assuming that, Kamala, ends up being elected president, what are we what are we gonna face with her as president? Well, first, we know she’ll sign the border bill. The, you know, as soon as she gets into office, everybody was ready to sign it before, but, Trump wouldn’t let them because he wanted to play the border card, during the election.
Bert Martinez:
And, again, I wanna I’m sorry to cut you off, but I do wanna insert this. This was this was a bipartisan border bill that the Republicans applauded.
Lawyer Norm Blumenthal:
Right. It’s a show sign that we you you know, the immigration issue will come off the table. Now the question becomes basically peep people living affordability of housing is is a critical issue. She’s come up with some ideas about getting people into housing with with lower cost.
And there’s other ideas out there. For example, having if if you’re a teacher at a school like they do at Harvard, but in any school starting with an elementary school in the area, this this, city schools will build a housing for their teachers. So there’s affordability, for for them teachers up and down the line. Same thing with then you expanded to police and fire.
So you have a community built again around, community housing of which then you have private housing, comes behind it, to make a a community that’s thriving in and of itself. So there’s a there’s an opportunity here with her her work to, have housing again affordable, for those besides the ideas, additional ideas she has about having, $25,000, per family to as a down payment to purchase a home.
And if you can save money with a reasonable affordable house as a teacher and put away 401 k money, you can have an additional funds for a down payment on housing as as people are moving into the suburbs and and areas because you don’t have to live in cities anymore to make a living. And education would be be helped. And, we and pollution would be helped. We have people building power plants that run on solar, to to help. So everything would be in in a positive sense. It may be a little boring.
Like, everybody thinks it’s boring for what president Biden did, but he started this process and to hopefully have clean energy, could save the planet. And she would continue along those lines because it’s not in it for her, it’s in it for us.
To trump, in my opinion, it’s in it for him and and to hell with us. She also would, most importantly, protect, women’s rights, to, their own bodies and and making their own decisions between them and their doctors without the intervention of a bunch of, old white men who have no business making a decision for women.
And so this is what you know, the future would be bright and the the divisiveness would be over. And Trump could go about his merry way and finish his litigation, and and that would be it. That’s where, you know, you hope you you on the bright side of things that you can see that because her ideas are new. They’re fresh. It’s a whole new process, and and we’d like to see it.
I mean, I I think that that not some of the we’ve seen this divisiveness now. What is it? It’s been 8 years we’ve had to put up with it. I don’t think we should we should be have to put it up with an extra 4. So maybe the Iowa caucus Iowa decision, like, they make, when they start out in the primaries, maybe that they’re this last would be the last hurrah for Trump we shall see tonight.
Bert Martinez:
Right. Right. You know, one of the things I I think is rather odd to me, and a lot of people don’t know this. I’ve mentioned this before. I used to be a hardcore Republican until they got in cahoots with the insurance company, and they wanted to take away people’s rights.
And that’s you you heard this thing called tort reform. And and the reason that doctors, are so expensive is because they have to pay these outrageous insurance bills because they’re getting sued all the time, and and that’s why your medical costs are so expensive. And and by passing this these tort reforms, the prices will go down.
And and, this was a scam. The insurance company spent billions of dollars to get this passed. But if you talk to any doctor, they will tell you it was all bull crap. And so that’s when I left the Republican party. However, I will I do wanna say this. When I was a hardcore Republican, the the great thing about or the easy the best thing about following the party line is that you are absolved yourself from making any kind of research or making any kind of decision. You’re not trying to decide whether this person’s a good leader or a bad leader like we’re talking about today.
You can just say, hey. I’m a Republican, so I’m gonna vote Republican. I’m a Democrat, so I’m gonna vote Democrats. To me, this is lazy thinking. This is lazy voting. You should be looking for the candidate that’s going to be the best leader for that position. Here we it. And and for everybody else who thinks, hey. No.
I’ll never I’ll only vote the party line. You are not a patriot. You are not doing your duty. You are doing the basic nothing, and and and and so that’s kind of my thought on voting the party line. It and then let’s talk about abortion. There’s all this this, talk about abortion, and and I’ve had several, of my friends even from our church who says, hey. I’m voting for Trump because he’s against abortion. First of all, Trump is not against abortion.
He did what he did, I’m assuming because somebody paid him to do it. Not because he cares about women, and he certainly doesn’t care about children. If he did care about children, he would not have messed around with mister Epstein.
The other thing is this, all of these people that wanna protect children by by getting rid of abortion have no plan whatsoever, to, you know, what what are they doing once the baby is born and the mother and father don’t want the baby? They have no plan for that. So you’re gonna force these people to have a child they don’t want. It’s gonna go into the government system. That is not better. That’s in some cases, it’s it’s even worse.
Now, they wanna make it sound like women just think that abortion is some silly willy thing. It’s like, I’m gonna I’m gonna have an abortion. Like, I’m gonna change my underwear. It’s like they make it sound like these like these women that have abortions, are just so flippant about it.
I don’t think that’s true. And for our Christian listeners, the there, you know, twice taught taught over and over again that it is not your job to judge others, and he who judges commits the bigger sin. So if you’re in it because of religious reasons, be mindful that if you’re judging these people, you don’t have the authority to judge them, and you’re committing the bigger sin. I’m not sure how what what abortion looks like for the for the Jewish people, But bottom line is, I don’t know anybody, Norm, that says that that that is just willy nilly about having an abortion.
However, I I’m scared that look what happened in Texas. Here is this young mother who has an in I don’t know what they the medical term, but it’s a an invalid fetus or anyway, the fetus is not going to be born alive. It is killing the mother, and the the state attorney general stops her from having an abortion. You have to be a complete a hole to put somebody in that predicament.
That’s you know, so so this idea that abortion is is purely evil and and it’s so, you know, simple, they’re wrong. And and and I don’t know anybody that would would, have an abortion, you know, without without going through tremendous struggle making that decision. And I don’t know anybody who’s who wants to have an abortion, but they certainly want to have that option. And so, again, this is something that, you know, people have pointed to when it comes to, Harris.
But but to your point, the people who are making who are pointing the finger and trying to make these laws are old white men. And some of these old white men, have been involved in sexual scandals. So it’s not a morality thing.
Lawyer Norm Blumenthal:
No. It’s not. And it’s, you know, it’s something between a doctor and, and and the woman. And, these are the people that should be making the decisions. Government should stay out, and that’s the whole point. And you’re gonna have a real bigger issue coming up that should, mister Trump be elected because of the Comstock law. Comstock law was passed in, 1876, And Comstock law basically not only outlaws, abortion, it outlaws, any type of contraceptive. So it goes back in, the Griswold versus Connecticut first, was the first case that, gave women the right to contraception, and that was, you know, right before Roe, happened as on the heels of that.
But that could very well be the next target. So it’s frightening how this country, these old white men treat women as if they’re, brood mayors instead of human beings that have the same rights as as as, white people. Men. White and and men. I mean, it this is just appalling.
And so I I just defer to the women to make make their own decisions because they’re gonna make it what’s right for themselves. But that’s not gonna happen unless Harris is elected because it’s gonna get worse at the federal level, and it’ll get worse in in states that don’t, have, protection for women’s laws, which we’ll see. Hopefully, it will dwindle down, but there’s still gonna be pockets of women that I’ve heard that, you know, just had children in Texas and the whole pregnancy, they were scared to death that something would go wrong and they’d have no no they die.
And these that that was that was what would happen. But we’ll see what happens. I have my faith in the American people, and at the end of the day, I’m hoping that, Iowa was the tell and that, we’re gonna see Harris, win.
Bert Martinez:
Absolutely. You know, I I’m I’m grateful. I am grateful for, for the celebrities that have come forward. And some of these celebrities are republican. They’re conservative. Harrison Ford is a great example. He is a he is a conservative republican who is now voting for, Harris. We’ve had, multiple conserve Liz Cheney is supporting, Harris.
Back to the reproduction thing, if 20 Project 2025 is initiated, They want to do away with IVF. I don’t know why they would wanna give why would they wanna stop people from having families? And then what really cracks me up is you have this project 2025 that wants to get rid of IVF, and then you have mister JD Vance saying, hey.
For these people who aren’t gonna have children, they should pay a higher tax. It’s like, you know, they’re they just they just wanna squeeze people for the sake of squeezing up. Not to help them. Not to make the world a better place. Not to promote fairness and and and have a United Nations. But just for the sake of placing their hate and fear, on on whoever is different than them.
Lawyer Norm Blumenthal:
Well, at the end of the day, a vote for, Trump is a vote for Putin, and a vote for, Harris is a vote for Ukrainians who are fighting to their for their freedom. And a vote for Harris is a vote to, rein in the, what is going on in the Middle East to bring about a a peace, in the Middle East, and a vote for Trump is to give, Netanyahu a blank check to, to do whatever he wants.
So there’s there’s a real issue here as to, in the world politic as to where we’re gonna end up to, and it’s it’s kinda scary. Are we gonna vote for, freedom for people, or are we gonna vote for authoritarian rule like you have in, in Russia, right now? Or are you gonna vote for freedom where Ukrainians are are, fighting for their freedom? So that’s that’s the choice.
Bert Martinez:
And and I I do wanna, you know, kinda maybe end on this note. One of the things that, you have said over the years is follow the money or, do what’s best for your wallet. You know? So some of the some things along those lines. And by Trump being in office, he’s going to, and and this is not me saying this, by the way. This is both Democrats.
This is both Democrats and Republicans saying that Trump’s economic plan is gonna cost us a minimum of 7 trillion and and, it’s going to hurt us because he wants to do all this crazy stuff with tariffs. Mark Cuban, who’s a Republican, is now voting for Harris, and he’s got he’s got into great detail talking about, how bad this plan is and and so have other, economic experts. So maybe vote, vote with your pocketbook and hat’s another reason to vote Harris in.
Her economic plan is only gonna cost us 3 trillion dollars. So it’s half the price, but it’s based on expansion and abundance and not contraction. You cannot tax you cannot tax a a country into prosperity. Tariffs is a way of taxing and slowing down the economy. I will end on that note, and I will let you, Norm, finish it up.
Lawyer Norm Blumenthal:
Okay. At the end of the day I mean, I have many, many friends who are Republicans. I know their their hearts in the right place. And, you know, we don’t talk politics because we know that, that that’s not gonna be a good discussion. But at the end of the day, my feeling is is that when they get into the voting booth or when they fill out their form, when no one else is around and no one can see who they’re gonna vote for, and they’re never gonna tell because, fortunately, it’s a secret ballot, and no one ever has to tell who they vote for. But at the end of the day, they’re every they’re like everybody else.
They’re just sick and tired of the divisiveness and the name calling and the gutter language of of our leaders that that, you know, permeate permeates down to our children. That at the end of the day, these Republicans, and they’re good people, are gonna vote for Harris.
Bert Martinez:
Absolutely. And normal end on that note. Thank you so much, my friend, for being here today. God bless America, and we’ll see you again soon.
Lawyer Norm Blumenthal:
Thank you, and good luck to everybody.
Bert Martinez:
Good stuff there from Norm Blumenthal. Norm Blumenthal is a attorney who specialize in helping workers and consumers. And, just I tell you, I’ve known Norm for almost 10 years, and his heart is, is a big heart. He is a a successful in individual, and he wants everybody else to be successful. He, doesn’t mind paying higher taxes if it’s going to help his community, very much analogous to Warren Buffett. You know, Warren Buffett says taxes, if if they are spin correctly, will help the community. So, Norm puts his money where his mouth is. And ladies and gentlemen, I love our country.
I want everyone to have, the American dream, whatever that means to you. I do not believe in my heart of hearts that Trump has any love for our country. He does not care about your success, and most politicians don’t. But I urge you to consider, prayerfully consider, voting for Ms. Harris. Either way, your vote’s important, so get out there and cast your vote.
Remember, you were created to succeed.
